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  • you can’t know
    that a line is crooked
     
    Heaven
    Paradise
    New Heavens + Earth
    Hell
    Hades
    Lake of Fire
    Eternal Life Eternal Judgement
    Presence
    of God
    Separation
    from God
       
    Humans have —
    a body and a soul
    (material and immaterial).
     
       
    Heaven/Paradise refers to —
    the “dwelling place” of God
    (where His presence is fully revealed).
     
       
    New Heavens + Earth refers to —
    God dwelling with people again
    (where His presence is fully revealed).
     
       
    Hades refers to —
    a place of conscious torment
    for the souls of the unrighteous
    awaiting final judgment
    Hades refers to —
    a place of conscious torment
    for the souls of the unrighteous
    awaiting final judgment
     
       
    The Lake of Fire refers to —
    a place of eternal punishment
    for the unrighteous (body + soul)
    after the final judgment
    The Lake of Fire refers to —
    A place of everlasting punishment
    for the bodies and souls of the unrighteous after the final judgment
     
                
               
       
    Mortal Body + Soul
    (Mortal Body + Soul)
      
                
           
           
        
    Body Dies
    (Soul Lives On)
       
                
               
            
       
    Paradise
    (Joy, Peace)
      
    Hades
    (Torment, Suffering)
       
       
    (Soul)
       
    (Soul)
              
            
       
    End of the Age
    (Second Coming)
      
              
          
          
      
    Bodily Resurrection
    (Immortal Body + Soul)
      
              
          
            
                
      
    Bodily Resurrection
    (Immortal Body + Soul)
      
         
    Evaluation
    (Rewards)
      
    Judgement
    (Condemnation)
             
             
                
         
    Heaven + Earth
    (Eternal Life)
       
    Lake of Fire
    (Eternal Punishment)
             
                
            
                
                
     
    unless you know
    what a straight line is
    (whatever isn’t straight is crooked)
    and
    you can’t know
    what is morally crooked
     
    Heaven
    Paradise
    New Heavens + Earth
    Hell
    Hades
    Lake of Fire
    Eternal Life Eternal Judgement
    Presence
    of God
    Separation
    from God
       
    Humans have —
    a body and a soul
    (material and immaterial).
     
       
    Heaven/Paradise refers to —
    the “dwelling place” of God
    (where His presence is fully revealed).
     
       
    New Heavens + Earth refers to —
    God dwelling with people again
    (where His presence is fully revealed).
     
       
    Hades refers to —
    a place of conscious torment
    for the souls of the unrighteous
    awaiting final judgment
    Hades refers to —
    a place of conscious torment
    for the souls of the unrighteous
    awaiting final judgment
     
       
    The Lake of Fire refers to —
    a place of eternal punishment
    for the unrighteous (body + soul)
    after the final judgment
    The Lake of Fire refers to —
    A place of everlasting punishment
    for the bodies and souls of the unrighteous after the final judgment
     
                
               
       
    Mortal Body + Soul
    (Mortal Body + Soul)
      
                
           
           
        
    Body Dies
    (Soul Lives On)
       
                
               
            
       
    Paradise
    (Joy, Peace)
      
    Hades
    (Torment, Suffering)
       
       
    (Soul)
       
    (Soul)
              
            
       
    End of the Age
    (Second Coming)
      
              
          
          
      
    Bodily Resurrection
    (Immortal Body + Soul)
      
              
          
            
                
      
    Bodily Resurrection
    (Immortal Body + Soul)
      
         
    Evaluation
    (Rewards)
      
    Judgement
    (Condemnation)
             
             
                
         
    Heaven + Earth
    (Eternal Life)
       
    Lake of Fire
    (Eternal Punishment)
             
                
            
                
                
     
    unless you know
    what is morally straight
    so what is this
    moral straight line
      • can people have a
        crooked moral standard
        (that’s incorrect )
          • then people aren’t the
            moral straight line
            then people aren’t the
            moral straight line
          • If people say —
            Torturing babies for fun is morally good.
            their moral standard is —
              • then people can have a
                crooked moral standard
                (see above )
                then it’s not the
                moral straight line
      • can society have a
        crooked moral standard
        (that’s incorrect )
          • then people aren’t the
            moral straight line
            then society isn’t the
            moral straight line
          • If society says —
            Torturing babies for fun is morally good.
            their moral standard is —
              • then society can have a
                crooked moral standard
                (see above )
      • this may be
        an example of
        something that’s morally good
        but
        what makes it good?
        (compared to what?)
        what is the
        moral straight line
        that determines it is
        morally straight
        (good)
        what is the
        moral straight line
                  
        what is the
        that determines what is
        morally straight
        (good)
        what is the
        moral straight line
        that determines what is
        morally straight
        (good)
          calling something
        since morally straight
        is a comparison to
         
        the moral straight line
      • Is torturing babies for fun morally crooked?
          • then people aren’t the
            moral straight line
            nothing can be
            morally crooked
             
            Heaven
            Paradise
            New Heavens + Earth
            Hell
            Hades
            Lake of Fire
            Eternal Life Eternal Judgement
            Presence
            of God
            Separation
            from God
               
            Humans have —
            a body and a soul
            (material and immaterial).
             
               
            Heaven/Paradise refers to —
            the “dwelling place” of God
            (where His presence is fully revealed).
             
               
            New Heavens + Earth refers to —
            God dwelling with people again
            (where His presence is fully revealed).
             
               
            Hades refers to —
            a place of conscious torment
            for the souls of the unrighteous
            awaiting final judgment
            Hades refers to —
            a place of conscious torment
            for the souls of the unrighteous
            awaiting final judgment
             
               
            The Lake of Fire refers to —
            a place of eternal punishment
            for the unrighteous (body + soul)
            after the final judgment
            The Lake of Fire refers to —
            A place of everlasting punishment
            for the bodies and souls of the unrighteous after the final judgment
             
                        
                       
               
            Mortal Body + Soul
            (Mortal Body + Soul)
              
                        
                   
                   
                
            Body Dies
            (Soul Lives On)
               
                        
                       
                    
               
            Paradise
            (Joy, Peace)
              
            Hades
            (Torment, Suffering)
               
               
            (Soul)
               
            (Soul)
                      
                    
               
            End of the Age
            (Second Coming)
              
                      
                  
                  
              
            Bodily Resurrection
            (Immortal Body + Soul)
              
                      
                  
                    
                        
              
            Bodily Resurrection
            (Immortal Body + Soul)
              
                 
            Evaluation
            (Rewards)
              
            Judgement
            (Condemnation)
                     
                     
                        
                 
            Heaven + Earth
            (Eternal Life)
               
            Lake of Fire
            (Eternal Punishment)
                     
                        
                    
                        
                        
             
            unless there’s a
            moral straight line
            crooked
            is a comparison to
             
            straight
            ( crooked is a comparison to straight)
            (whatever isn’t straight is crooked)
      • the moral straight line
        is not people —
          since people can have crooked moral standards
        is not society —
          since societies can have crooked moral standards
        has authority —
          (over people and society) otherwise no one has to do right and not wrongit has a right to tell people and society how we should live to tell us what to do(over people and society) otherwise no one has a right to tell us what to do over people and society, otherwise nobody is obligated to do right and not do wrong
        is eternal (no beginning) —
        had no beginning
        but always existed —
          right and wrong always existed (discovered, not invented)
        is everywhere —
          no matter where you go right and wrong exist
        is unchanging —
          right and wrong don’t change just because people do
        isn’t physical —
          right and wrong exist, but can’t be seen or touched
        what does this describe?
          • God
            is eternal (no beginning)
            is everywhere
            is unchanging
            isn’t physical
            and
            has authority
             
            (if God created everything,
            everything belongs to God)
            Eternal
            from everlasting to everlasting you are God. (Romans 11:34)
            the One who … inhabits eternity (Isaiah 57:15)
            Everywhere
            heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain you (1 Kings 8:27)
            where shall I flee from your presence? … heaven [or] … Sheol, you are there! (Psalm 139:7-12)
            Unchanging
            … I the Lord do not change (Malachi 3:6)
            Isn’t Physical
            God is spirit (John 4:24)
            immortal, invisible, the only God (1 Timothy 1:17)
            Has Authority
            The earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof, the world and those who dwell therein, for he has founded it … (Psalm 24:1-2)
            God
            is the straight line
             
            Heaven
            Paradise
            New Heavens + Earth
            Hell
            Hades
            Lake of Fire
            Eternal Life Eternal Judgement
            Presence
            of God
            Separation
            from God
               
            Humans have —
            a body and a soul
            (material and immaterial).
             
               
            Heaven/Paradise refers to —
            the “dwelling place” of God
            (where His presence is fully revealed).
             
               
            New Heavens + Earth refers to —
            God dwelling with people again
            (where His presence is fully revealed).
             
               
            Hades refers to —
            a place of conscious torment
            for the souls of the unrighteous
            awaiting final judgment
            Hades refers to —
            a place of conscious torment
            for the souls of the unrighteous
            awaiting final judgment
             
               
            The Lake of Fire refers to —
            a place of eternal punishment
            for the unrighteous (body + soul)
            after the final judgment
            The Lake of Fire refers to —
            A place of everlasting punishment
            for the bodies and souls of the unrighteous after the final judgment
             
                        
                       
               
            Mortal Body + Soul
            (Mortal Body + Soul)
              
                        
                   
                   
                
            Body Dies
            (Soul Lives On)
               
                        
                       
                    
               
            Paradise
            (Joy, Peace)
              
            Hades
            (Torment, Suffering)
               
               
            (Soul)
               
            (Soul)
                      
                    
               
            End of the Age
            (Second Coming)
              
                      
                  
                  
              
            Bodily Resurrection
            (Immortal Body + Soul)
              
                      
                  
                    
                        
              
            Bodily Resurrection
            (Immortal Body + Soul)
              
                 
            Evaluation
            (Rewards)
              
            Judgement
            (Condemnation)
                     
                     
                        
                 
            Heaven + Earth
            (Eternal Life)
               
            Lake of Fire
            (Eternal Punishment)
                     
                        
                    
                        
                        
             
            that determines
            what is crooked
            So, for example —
             
             
            Lying because God is
            is wrong *Truth*
            we shouldn’t because God
            Lie Cannot Lie
             
             
            *the true line that determines what’s false
            This is why Jesus said —
            No one is good except God
            Mark 10:18
            so compared to God are we —
            straight
            or
            crooked
             
            Heaven
            Paradise
            New Heavens + Earth
            Hell
            Hades
            Lake of Fire
            Eternal Life Eternal Judgement
            Presence
            of God
            Separation
            from God
               
            Humans have —
            a body and a soul
            (material and immaterial).
             
               
            Heaven/Paradise refers to —
            the “dwelling place” of God
            (where His presence is fully revealed).
             
               
            New Heavens + Earth refers to —
            God dwelling with people again
            (where His presence is fully revealed).
             
               
            Hades refers to —
            a place of conscious torment
            for the souls of the unrighteous
            awaiting final judgment
            Hades refers to —
            a place of conscious torment
            for the souls of the unrighteous
            awaiting final judgment
             
               
            The Lake of Fire refers to —
            a place of eternal punishment
            for the unrighteous (body + soul)
            after the final judgment
            The Lake of Fire refers to —
            A place of everlasting punishment
            for the bodies and souls of the unrighteous after the final judgment
             
                        
                       
               
            Mortal Body + Soul
            (Mortal Body + Soul)
              
                        
                   
                   
                
            Body Dies
            (Soul Lives On)
               
                        
                       
                    
               
            Paradise
            (Joy, Peace)
              
            Hades
            (Torment, Suffering)
               
               
            (Soul)
               
            (Soul)
                      
                    
               
            End of the Age
            (Second Coming)
              
                      
                  
                  
              
            Bodily Resurrection
            (Immortal Body + Soul)
              
                      
                  
                    
                        
              
            Bodily Resurrection
            (Immortal Body + Soul)
              
                 
            Evaluation
            (Rewards)
              
            Judgement
            (Condemnation)
                     
                     
                        
                 
            Heaven + Earth
            (Eternal Life)
               
            Lake of Fire
            (Eternal Punishment)
                     
                        
                    
                        
                        
             
            See: Are you a good person?